Prong collar?

Is it OK to use a prong collar or pinch collar?


I have a 4 yr old pit mix (pit/lab really but in strength and personality she leans a lot more toward "pit"). She is trained well and usually listens wonderfully. She is quite submissive and has never ever shown any type of human or animal aggression.

As soon as we step outside she forgets her manners, she wants to play and meet everything and everyone we come across. Needless to say most people aren't happy with a 70lb pit straining to greet them!

I took her to the pet store with me with the intention of buying a "gentle lead" harness and luckily for me the store had just gotten in a shipment of about 500 baby chicks, so they saw first hand the pulling problem, she has bruised my wrists from me holding so tight to the leash.

They were really discouraging about the gentle lead and had a lot of reasons why it wouldn't work for her, most of which did make sense. 45 minutes of them convincing me and I left with a "pinch" collar.

Here it sits, I can not bring myself to putting this on her, it looks so mean. I have put it on myself and had my husband give it a few tugs so I know it doesn't really hurt but.. I have tried every other method to get her to behave on leash and nothing is working.

However, I would rather let her pull and tug all day long then to use something that could hurt her or stress her out. I have watched endless video's and read countless articles on the proper way to use it but I just am not sure.

I guess I'm asking for a recommendation? Will it help me to train her better on leash? Can it damage her? Have you had good experiences with these as a training tool?

Gale's Reply:

I can't recommend a prong collar (sometimes called a pinch collar) because I have never used one. I do know that a lot of people use them and swear by them. But, I believe there are better ways to train a dog not to pull.

For example this article outlines a simple, but elegant process for extinguishing pulling behavior and replacing it with loose leash walking. If your dog strains against the end of the leash even when you are standing still, be sure to note the final technique at the bottom of the article, "Back and to the Right". I have used this with my dogs with excellent results.

You asked about how safe and effective prong collars are. I would say it depends largely on the operator. The collar has to be properly fitted. And, proper technique has to be used to avoid injury. And, if your dog has a high pain tolerance (as many pit bulls do), you can't necessarily gauge whether you are using proper technique by how your dog reacts to the pinch.

Seeing that you are ambivalent about using the collar, I would suggest you try techniques like the ones outlined in the article referenced above. And, for a comprehensive training program, I can also recommend Canis Clicker Training.

However, if you do decide to use the prong collar, I suggest you schedule a session with a professional trainer who can show you how to use it correctly. And, with whom you can practice under their professional guidance.

For more information on obedience training, visit our Pit Bull Training page.

For help with behavioral problems, check out our Dog Behavior Training page.

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Apr 09, 2011
Prong collar
by: Anonymous

Based on my experience, I'd say don't use them. My dog's trainer suggested it, but what she failed to mention is that many bull breed dogs are so oblivious to pain that they don't work. My dog would totally ignore that she had it on, and let herself be inadvertently strangled. I think I used to maybe three times, all in the trainer's presence, before we both decided it was a terrible idea. I swithced to usig a harness to have more control, and we've both been much happier ever since.

Apr 09, 2011
Pinch Collar
by: Yvonne Stull

I absolutely love my pinch collar because i have a 90 lb. pitbull male and let me tell you i've trained him on that collar and he knows when we go for a ride in the car or for a walk and he goes right for the chain. I'll let you know you just take it easy til your dog gets used to it. Taz my dog knows when that collar goes on he knows he has to be on his best behavior. It doesn't hurt them but it lets them know they need to tone it down a notch. If you have anymore qwuestions on the collar find me on facebook under Yvonne Stull and my profile picture is of my 2 Pitbulls.

Apr 09, 2011
Bullheaded pitties. :)
by: Li

I have a pittie of my own that has the same problem. They can be stubborn to train sometimes. But once you have their attention, they always want to please you.

To start off, I highly recommend a "traffic control" leash, if you don't already use one. We use a leash that has two hand loops, one in the traditional spot and one way down near the clip. This extra loop allows you to keep your dog right at your side, instead of wrapping the leash around your hand. This alone will not prevent pulling, but when she does want to lunge, it's easier to keep her near, because your arm isn't outstretched and straining.

We currently pair this with a martingale style collar. It's a mix of a regular collar and a choke, but it only tightens to a certain extent. I've tried a head harness with her, but even with positive reinforcement, she grinds her teeth when it's on (like she's trying to gnaw it off). A head harness maybe work for yours though! It's always worth a shot.

Good luck!

Apr 09, 2011
Prongs vs. Choke vs. NewThing they have...
by: Traci in Texas, Mom to 4 Bullies

The old fashioned Choke collars have been found to cause muscle damage and throat harm. I would pass on those. They do not have any "stop" to them - they just keep getting smaller and smaller.

Prong collars, if it is your last resort, will work to make her quit pulling against you - but must be used judiciously. Be very careful with them. But they do have the "stops" in them so they won't go too far inadvertently. I vote for this as a last resort.

Your best option is the new fangled cloth choke-like collars that have the little chain or fabric second-loop in them. When adjusted correctly, they will tighten, but not too much, and should not injure your pet. It is only meant to get their attention. Used in conjunction with your "negative word," such as No or Stop... whatever you use to mean "Quit it."

What it sounds like she really needs is a remedial few lessons in appropriate behaviour in public on a leash. Check out if you can sign up for a couple lessons (to re-train the trainer, perhaps) to help curtail this annoying behaviour in an otherwise perfectly-behaved pooch!

Of our four Pibbles, or Pibble-Mix, or Boxer, we have had to finally break down and take New Dog #4 to obedience class. She's wonderful. She's smart. She's gentle. She's just not "getting" what I mean when I am trying to teach her a few things... So (I/me/Momma) I need a couple new techniques to get this one particular behaviour (or two, or five) under control. :)

I don't use a clicker (I use a reward word), but check out this vid on YouTube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFgtqgiAKoQ It is pretty close to what I have been being trained on to help Charli quit pulling. LOL!


Apr 09, 2011
Yes to the prong w/ training
by: Anonymous

You're going to have a hard time getting any training done if you are struggling to control your dog. I don't think there's anything wrong with using the prong collar while you are training with the intent of phasing it out once the correct behavior is learned. It took me only one session with my dog for him to learn not to pull on the leash.

1.Get some yummy treats (cut up hotdog works well or small training treats).
2.Go somewhere without a lot of distractions (like the backyard if you have one)
3.Get her attention with the treat and start walking in a straight line. (don't hold the leash tight, give her room to make a mistake)
4. as soon as she gets in front of you, turn and walk quickly in the other direction. If when you hit the end of the leash, she doesn't follow - give her a sharp tug and release.
5. As soon as she catches up to you, give her a treat and praise her.
6. Repeat ad nauseum, until she learns that you are unpredictable and staying with you means lots of yummy treats, but getting in front of you means she gets left behind. It doesn't take long for them to start paying close attention to you because they just never know what you are going to do.

Enrolling in obedience classes are a great way to get her used to obeying you even with distractions. A lot of obedience classes even offer CGC certification at the end. Don't be intimidated. I was one who thought my happy dog could never calm down enough to do obedience, but he proved me wrong and earned his CGC and I realized how easy it is.

Apr 09, 2011
I use a prong collar for training
by: Nathalie

I was against it for a longest time. But when walking two pitties the time, and I felt they were trying to make a wish. I decided to use one and not the other to test the theory. I put it on my strong will girl. She pulled I corrected and not hard. She stopped pulling. So I went out got both a prong since I borrowed from friend. I found its great tool and the dogs have excepted them. I pull out the collars with the leads and they are at the door. We go for a nice walk and I won't have to my shoulders replaced.
When we walk we walk. If we see other dog I tell them forward and little snap. No lunging and we are getting our walk done with no drama. I have control of my dogs and no drama!

Apr 09, 2011
Positive training methods
by: Jan N.

I have a pit mix and was in the same boat as you about two months ago. My back was out of whack and my hands were bruised and raw from my dog pulling me. I understand how frustrated you are with walking your dog, believe me!

I have to advise you to NOT use the prong collar! I have learned in our obedience class that pressure on the neck actually heightens the arousal levels of dogs. I went for 6 months with trying to train my dog to walk nicely on leash and got nowhere. Since then, my trainers have taught me to use three things in conjunction to TEACH my dog to walk nicely on leash and the combination WORKS! Here are the 3 things:

1) Use a head collar in conjunction with a body harness. Connect the head collar to the body harness, not the neck collar. (My dog is 62 lbs and I am still afraid that the head collar will slip off somehow. It never has, I just worry about it.) I would highly suggest Halti brand head collar and body harness. Their body harness has a metal ring at the chest so you can attach the head collar to it. Make sure you follow the directions that come with the head collar to the letter or it will not work. Take the time to acclimate your dog to the head collar. Your dog will still not like it for approximately one to two weeks. Don't give up on it, though. Eventually, the dog will get used to it and you AND your dog will think it is the best thing since sliced bread!!

2) Start clicker training your dog on walks. Reward your dog for looking at you when told to do so, for returning to your side, for following any other direction you give, and for not pulling (evenif it's just for a few seconds). One of the most important ones, in my opinion, is "look at me" or "watch me" because it breaks their trance and makes them realize that walking is a partner activity and there is a human at the other end of the leash. You may need to use high reward treats, such as pieces of hot dog or chicken to get your dog to care about the treats. (Regular training treats did not work at first for us.) Also, you have to refrain from yelling or pulling back on the leash. Do not give any negative feedback at all when your dog pulls. Only reward him/her when he/she is not pulling. (Even if it's for 2 seconds.) Pits are smart and your dog will catch on quick.

3) Teach your dog to walk on your left. Hold the leash in your right hand along with the clicker. Hold the treats in your left hand near the dogs head. Always feed the treats out of your left hand. At first, your dog will come back to you often to get the treats, which will break that fixation on pulling. Eventually, your dog will just walk next to you in the heel position to get the treats.

I saw great progress within the first two weeks of using all three of these things together and it took about 1 month for there to be absolutely no pulling at all. I love walking my dog now and she is soooo happy that she doesn't get yelled at anymore! Good luck with your dog!! :)

Apr 09, 2011
Prong Collar
by: Anonymous


When I was picking out a training collar I looked at others before I picked the prong collar. I did not like the idea at first but for my Lola it has worked great with her training! It does not inflict pain, it helps remind them of proper behavior. Prong collars can be a great training tool!

Apr 09, 2011
PRONG COLLAR
by: MADELINE

I AM TOTALLY AGAINST PRONG COLLARS.I HAVE AN II YR OLD PIT BULL I HAVE NEVER USED A PRONG COLLAR OR HAVE I CONSIDERED IT.I HAVE HAD HER SINCE SHE WAS 6 WKS OLD.SHE IS THE MOST GENTLE LIL LADY.I TAUGHT HER WHEN SHE WAS A PUP AFTER MUCH PULLING BY HER I KEPT TEACHING HER THE WORD EASY AND SHOWED HER WHAT IT MEANT.I DO USE THE CHOKER COLLAR.GOOD LUCK.

Apr 09, 2011
Use them!!!
by: Anonymous

I use one for my female she is the same way soon as she is out side that nose of hers dos ALL the thinking, not really out to harm anyone but there breed scare people, I first used one and it was like night and day. I put it on her secnd she got out side she did her pull and WHAM it hit her and bam she was back to walking like a princess once again,

Apr 09, 2011
Use them!!!
by: Anonymous

I use one for my female she is the same way soon as she is out side that nose of hers dos ALL the thinking, not really out to harm anyone but there breed scare people, I first used one and it was like night and day. I put it on her secnd she got out side she did her pull and WHAM it hit her and bam she was back to walking like a princess once again,

Apr 09, 2011
Prong Collar
by: Pauline

I personally don"t like prong collars and agree that some dogs have a high pain tolerance,and now matter what they still pull.Having encountered the same problem, I suggest trying a martingale collar or harness. Also if you can walk your dog somewhere in wide open area with little traffic or people and loose lease walk with positive re-enforcement and treats for good behavior. The reason I"m saying this is because sometimes the more you restrain them the more they want to pull. And depending on your dogs energy level you may want to try either longer walks too deplete there energy or more smaller walks too break-up boredom. Good-Luck and don"t get discouraged because this is the number ONE problem amongst this breed. You are not alone!!

Apr 09, 2011
Lola's Secret prong collar
by: Anonymous

There is a collar called Lola's Secret. It's a prong collar designed to not have prongs around the trachea and also hidden in a beautiful collar so that you won't get those glaring looks from the anti-prong people. Given the choose between a chest harness, gentle leader and the Lola's Secret my girl hides from the first two and gets excited about putting on her prong collar for our outings.
But...I used the collar along with clicker and praise as well as the stop & start method of learning to walk easy. She is a champ at walking now and we get compliments all the time in her gentleness.

Apr 09, 2011
Make sure the collar is fitted correctly!
by: Deb A

Prong collars work wonders for strong dogs, especially those that can be prone to high prey drive.

The one most important thing to make sure you do is fit the collar correctly. It would sit high on the neck, right behind the ears. If the collar slips down onto the lower neck (like you see most prongs) it is totally ineffective and worthless. When fitted correctly just the slightest jerk will get your dogs attention and allow you to refocus them on you. You can check out this PDF on how to properly fit one so it is effective and safe:

http://leerburg.com/pdf/fitprong.pdf

I would also suggest having a flat collar on your dog as a backup in case the prong comes apart. This usually only has a chance of happening if you use a very strong correction however it is always better to be safe. You can either use two leashes or get a connector to join the two together.

I'd make sure and start using the collar in the non-active position. To do this, you fit the collar to the dog in the proper position and then attach the leash snap to both rings - this way the dog gets the pressure from the prongs but the collar doesn't constrict around their neck. For most dogs this is quite effective. If your dog doesn't respond you can change it to just using the single ring which will give it a firmer effect when a correction is given.

While positive training and rewards are always a good way, sometimes you do need a bit more backup. You ALWAYS want your dog under control. If the prong collar, used properly, helps you maintain that control when your dog is excited and not listening there is no reason to not use it.

Apr 09, 2011
With proper use the work.
by: Anonymous

My pup is 100 lbs plus, and obviously much stronger then me. For his safety I use it. However, it needed to be fitted and I use it correctly. He responds very well with his collar, and I would not take him out without it.

Try it out, you will be amazed at how well the collar works, when used properly. You could actually hold a cup of coffee in the same hand with out spilling.

With strong and powerful dogs, they are sometimes a necessity for your control and the dogs safety.

Apr 09, 2011
pronged collars
by: pitlover58

I think the gentle leader U were going to get works great! I have 2 pits & my female is the hardest puller. My male is 90lbs so he is the one I worry about pulling the most but only in confrontational issues. I use to use a harness & it is good if you have the strength to hold them back but with the gentle leader if they pull it pulls their head back towards themselves no matter how hard they pull it pulls them & they will not pull so hard if at all. I thought at first it was cruel but after trying it on one I went ahead since it worked so well & got the second. I got the largest as they adjust & then I hook the hook on their leash on their gentle leader & then to their regular collars to lessen the tension on our walks. If they start pulling (which is only when they see another dog that is barking & pulling towards them) it just pulls their head down & discourages the tugging! I think it works great & think it is much kinder & gentler than the pronged hunk of metal. The company sends a training dvd with instructions on how to use it!

Apr 10, 2011
prong collar
by: clinton Berry

Please Please don't use a prong collar. A gentle leader or Halti are the best option Prong collars are out dated and cruel...

Apr 10, 2011
Every dog is different
by: Stephanie

Try the collar if it works, it works!

If it does not work, it does not work.

They have always worked for me, America Bull Dog, German Sheppard, and Pit Bull breeds.

Every dog is different, including Pit Bull breeds.

Amen!


Apr 11, 2011
pinch coller
by: Carlotta Stephens-Springer

I had to throw mine away. I had a 90# pit/boxer mix. Got him at 7 days old.Started training right away ( at that age I would touch him everywhere. rub his ears,feet, bottom ,pee pee(sounds gross, but you never know what you will need to put meds.on),put my finger in his mouth).All training was age apropreate (sp.). Hoss and I did open compation, and walked away with 1st place more times than not.HOSS was fantastic. I thought I would try a pinch for a little clean-up. I poped him 1 time with that thing and he pulled me through 2 yards and tryed to go thru a fence to get a GSD. Never did he do that before.I took it off of him,healed him off leach to home,threw it away. Hoss never did it again. I do not know what happened, other than he didn't like that pinch coller. All dogs are different,mite work for you. As for me, I'll never try it again.

Apr 30, 2011
Prong
by: allison

I didn't want to use the prong because I felt it would hurt her and also make her look mean. After serious struggle walking her on a leash I got her a choke and it was nothing but a joke because she just pulled and didn't care. After going to playgroups (@ Petco) some other dog owners told me the best bet was going with the prong. One lady even helped me fit one on my pit and let me tell you she was an ENTIRELY different dog she walked with me she NEVER pulled. And after doing obedience training with the collar she does AMAZING.

May 01, 2011
Prong Collar vs Gentle Leader
by: Pittie Trainer

As a trainer, with experience training Pit Bulls, I STRONGLY recommend the gentle lead. Prong collars, in my experience, do not work with pitties. Pitties have a high tolerance for discomfort, and are notoriously headstrong dogs. The prong collar just does not affect them to the degree necessary for it to be affective. As far as the gentle leader goes, I have had far better results using that. When I say gentle leader, by the way, I'm speaking of the head collar. Getting control of the head of a pittie is by far the most effective way to control the dog. When properly hooked up, the head collar will cause a pulling dog to turn around and walk in the opposite direction that it is pulling in, thus making it self correcting. The dog eventually learns to walk without pulling in order to walk in the direction it wants to walk in. Make sure that you not only hook the leash to the head collar, but also to the neck collar, in case the dog somehow manages to slip the head collar. As far as the store employee telling you the gentle lead harness doesn't work, just like any tool, when used properly, the chhances of success are dependent on a) your dedication in training your dog, b) the proper use of the tool, c) the consistency of use with the tool, and d) the reward system you use with training your dog. I would recommend finding a reputable trainer in your area and working with them to help overcome your leash behavior problem.

May 02, 2011
prong collars
by: kush's mamma

Pit bulls are in the category of molliser dogs ie working sports dogs, they have a built in need to pull against any resistance hence the "walking you" attitude. A prong collar does not make a dog behave, you do!! Needing to CONTROL your dog is for their safety, someone might mis-interpret enthusiasm for aggression. In my experience with several VERY head strong breeds (chow pit bull and various terriers) a harness to control body movement (lift their legs off the ground to destabilize their personal feeling of safety)going in the direction you want and waiting for them to grow up a little did more for them than strangling them with a sharp in the neck collar.

May 02, 2011
Exceptions to every rule
by: Mae

I use a prong collar for a different reason. My pittie boy has no fur on his neck and chest - just some peach fuzz. Every collar I tried tore his neck apart. Martingales, nylon, leather, pleather, round or flat, it didn't matter. I tried a harness and it tore up his chest and underarms. Just these big, oozing sores, like broken blisters, that bled and looked SO painful! Mind you, he's not a bad puller, either! He's just got the world's most sensitive skin. After trying everything else, I finally took my trainer's suggestion to use a prong collar...AND IT WORKED!! Because the prongs sit just on topof his skin and don't rub, and the whole thing hangs loose when he's not moving, his neck doesn't get torn up.
Again, I didn't turn to it for help with pulling, so it's possible that my situation doesn't really help you make your decision...but I hope it helps people understand that there are exceptions to every rule, and not everyone using these collars is doing it to hurt their dogs or look tough.

May 02, 2011
other then prog
by: Anonymous

i have a great dane with the same problems of wonting to run up to ppl when we are on a walk. i toke her to a "dog camp" and they used a prong coller on her...she was injuired from them drading her about with it. it toke 2 mths of rework before we could even get a collor on her again. we use a holty on her and my other pits, it works great. they fuse about with it when it first goes on but our walks are alot more fun for both of us. they work just like a holter on a horse. control the head and the body follows.
if you do end up using a pinch, make sure the ppl teaching the use know what they are doing. also have your vet check your dog ever so offen of damage to the throat. that is what happen to our GD.
good luck

Dec 01, 2011
Common Sense
by: G-rise

In the 1970's Stanley Millgrim did a study where he had 26 people (13 male 13 female) shock a small puppy. 20 of the 26 people complied. The six who refused were all male. All 13 women obeyed, although many were deeply disturbed, some openly weeping.
This test was a variation of his famous Obedience to Authority test.

We still see this today, played out in real life. Many so -called 'trainers' use shock collars, chokers, and prong collars to teach innocent puppies basic obedience even though all the research against it is negative.
Studies show that prong collars have a 16% chance of causing tracheal damage, a 40% chance of causing aggression, a risk of spinal damage, blindness (due to the route of the optic nerves)
and a 100% rise in cortisol levels. After using the prong collar just once, there is an increase in cortisol levels that extends to walks even when the prong collar is not present!
Ask yourself this: would you let your friend, put a prong collar around your neck and pop it?
Use common sense when training your dogs. If it is inhumane to do it to a person then it is inhumane to do it to a dog. And before you accuse me of anthromorphisng, I assure you, I am not! The fear centers in a dog's brain are activated by the prong collars the same as they would be in ours.

sources:
www.adogsview.net
H. Twining A Arluck 2000
E Blackwell 2005
NG Williams 2003

Dec 01, 2011
Prong works when used correctly.
by: Stephanie

My 110 pound pup worked great with prong. Now two years later he responds and works great without it. It was a great training tool for us. A gentle tug put him to attention, without otherwise would not. He is to strong. He now does not need it. When fit and used correctly it give you control and keeps the dog safe.

Dec 28, 2011
K9 Trainer
by: George

I agree with having a k9 trainer show you how the pinch collar works. I have been training K9's for the US Army and many Law Enforcement agencies for about 15 years and can tell you if the pinch collar is used correctly it is the best training collar and the safest for your K9, no matter what breed you have. The fit is very very important and you should learn how to use the correct correction method by a professional trainer and not these weekend trainers you will find at your local pet store. Most have no more than a month of professional training to train a dog. Keep in mind that what works for one dog does not meen it will work for all. But I will tell you that Gentle Leaders and Choke Chains are not reccomended as a safe training aide by those who are profeesional trainers with alot of experince. They can cause injury or even death to your K9 quicker than any other training collar. But keep in mind that they can also be used for certain K9's by a professional to help train your dog. One of the most common errors I see and hear is that if your dog is pulling use a halter, W R O N G!!!!!! This will promote the pulling behaviour that you are trying to stop. If you want your K9 to pull you around then use a harness or halter. If you want to stop them of this use a pinch collar and learn how to use it correctly by seeing a PROFESSIONAL TRAINER which most will show you how to fit it and use it at no cost to you, so as to help you have a safe and enjoyable life with your K9. There are also good websites on how to fit and use the pinch collar (not a replacement for a PROFFESIONAL TRAINER though). I would still recommened that taking a class with a proffessionl K9 Trainer is your safest and best bet. Keep in mind there is never just one way to train your K9 and if someone tells you that you need to run away not walk. Just like us humans K9's do not all learn the same and what works for one K9 does not work for all. You may ask why I believe so strongly in the pinch collar? It is easy, years of being a proffessional K9 trainer and seeing the results of using the pinch collar as well as understanding why it was invented in the first place. It is to mimick the Mother or other K9 in correcting another K9. They bite the neck of the other dog not choke or damage the spine with a strong jerking motion. This is why I would reccomend the pincher collar. I must add that with any training aide if used incorrectly it can cause harm to your K9. I would also recommened you ask questions of anyone giving you advise on dog training. See how long they were PROFFESSIONALY Trained to train dogs before you just blindly trust them. Many pet stores who have people who wear Dog Trainer vest or name plates have no more Training than that of a person like yourself who has taken one class lasting no more than 8 weeks at one night a week.


Feb 16, 2012
No to the Prong
by: Pitlovr

Many uneducated trainers and owners LOVE the prong collars. They don't have enough to say about how great they are. However, I have never in my life seen a scientific study that has good things to say about prong collars. One study showed that prong collars actually caused more stress than outright beating a dog!
There is a 100% chance your dogs cortisol levels will raise the second you put one of these on. There is a 1 in 6 chance you will damage your dogs trachea. There is a 40% chance your dog will become aggressive.
I would exchange the prong collar for a halti or no-pull harness.
This webpage (www.adogsview.net) has a lot of information about prong collars and even shows the studies to back them up.

Happy training!

Jun 18, 2012
Yes, but not always necessary.
by: Anonymous

It's really quite simple. Place your collar high on the neck. When your dog begins to pull, make a correction. But don't pull the dog towards you. Lift the leash straight up. Choke collars and pinch/prong collars can increase drive in some dogs. If this is the case with you, than try a dominant dog collars. But remember, high on the neck under the jawline and right behind the ears. And all corrections should be made by lifting straight up. When your dog complies reward him. This goes for all collars.

Feb 02, 2013
Love the prong
by: Anonymous

Hmmm where to start, let me just say I love the prong, you shouldn't have to use it long if you induct when you correct like no pull my double mastiff only need like 3 sessions with the prong now he doesn't pull regardless of the situation. However a rescued boxadore I had write hers all the time to remind her to behave she was so hyper and a submissive pee er 2 days inside with me on a leash with the prong and both problems were solved but when you took the coller of she forgot her manners but just letting her wear it was a reminder to behave. I also highly recommend pack mentality training which this coller works great with because it's like they got corrected by the the alfa YOU generally a smart dog when you use it properly will get the concept quickly as for it causing aggression I have never seen this but I could see where a dog that sees itself as the pack leader could get vry upset by this I would just try it.

May 19, 2013
no way
by: Anonymous

You can tell by looking at these things that they are cruel and inhumane why do that to a dog? Just look at what it did to this chick's arm
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=192529927543637&set=pb.132219526908011.-2207520000.1368989820.&type=3&theater)
I would never do that to a dog, they're supposed to be our best friends.

Jun 16, 2016
Halting vs pinch NEW
by: Anonymous

Why not start with a halti. Most dogs led by their nose are much more compatible, but if it doesn't work then go with the pinch collar with the rubber protectors on them. Some dogs just need a reminder of manners not a painful yank. I used to Rollerblade with my great Dane and my cattle dog at the same time with the pinch collar, they loved it, they would line up to get their collars on and then be all manners.a regular collar they would see how far they could pull me before I would get out the halting for walks the pinch for rollerblading or where I needed to keep them safe from others, cars ect...

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